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Wednesday, March 28, 2012

Hawaii Birth Certificate fraud

Still hard to say whether or not BO's records are real and legal or not. If any of this is accurate, BO needs to be investigated by congress and the FBI (they say it is not necessary for them to vet politicians and they won't unless ordered) and his accomplices treated as criminals.

Monday, August 09, 2010

passport documents have no birth certificate info, either


BORN IN THE USA?

No birth certificate among passport documents

Conspicuously missing from file stating Obama born in Hawaii


Posted: August 08, 2010
10:13 pm Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2010 WorldNetDaily

S. Ann Dunham in Indonesia
Passport documents for Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro recently released by the State Department did not include any birth-certificate documentation for Barack Obama, despite a memorandum in the file claiming he was born in Honolulu. The released documents indicate Dunham's husband, Lolo Soetoro, petitioned the Immigration and Naturalization Service of the State Department in 1967 to obtain a waiver to return to the United States to rejoin his wife and her infant son, Barack Obama Jr. A WND timeline drawn from the State Department's July 29 Freedom of Information Act release of passport documents indicates Lolo Soetoro returned to Indonesia July 20, 1966, after completing his studies at the University of Hawaii. Soetoro was required to complete a mandatory two-year residence requirement in Indonesia before he could be granted a visa to return to the U.S. In an apparent attempt to establish the nationality of Barack Obama Jr., a person named Mix submitted a poorly typed and difficult-to-decipher memo to the file, dated Sept. 14, 1967, without identifying any official position he or she may have held with State Department at that time. (Story continues below)
   
The memo is written pursuant "to inquiry from Central office regarding the status of the applicants' spouses' child by a former marriage." (sic)
The next paragraph reads:
"The person in question [Barack Obama, Jr.] is a united states citizen by virtue of his birth in Honolulu, Hawaii Aug. 4, 1961. He is living with the applicants' spouse in Honolulu. He is considered the applicants step-child, within the meaning of Sec. 101(b)(1)(B), of the act, by virtue of the marriage of the applicant to the childs' mother on March 15, 1965."
The person writing the document does not reference having examined any birth-certificate document to establish the citizenship of Barack Obama Jr.
Instead, the memorandum suggests it's written as a result of a conversation, possibly with Obama's mother, in which the information was conveyed by her and simply accepted as offered, without documentary verification.
In contrast, various forms in the Freedom of Information Act release clearly indicate when corroborating documents have been presented. For instance, an examining Immigration and Naturalization Service and State Department official filing a particular report had examined the divorce decree between Barack Obama's mother and his father, Barack Obama Sr., to establish that the parents were legally divorced.
In the two separate releases of Freedom of Information Act documents July 29, what should have been a clear opportunity to see a birth certificate for Barack Obama Jr. was lost when the State Department destroyed any and all passport documents that may have existed for Dunham prior to 1968.
The released State Department documents make clear that Barack Obama Jr. was listed on his mother's passport.
However, as WND has previously reported, the State Department claims Dunham's application for her 1965 U.S. Passport No. 777788, issued July 19, 1965, was destroyed at some unspecified time in the 1980s, apparently pursuant to a General Services Administration directive.
Lacking Dunham's application for her 1965 U.S. passport, it is impossible to determine what documentation, if any, she submitted to the State Department to establish her son was a U.S. citizen.
WND has reported that in a passport amendment submitted Aug. 13, 1968, Obama's mother identified her son with an Indonesian surname and asked the State Department to drop him from her U.S. passport, bolstering evidence Barack Obama Jr. became a citizen of Indonesia when he moved to the Southeast Asian nation with his mother and stepfather in the late 1960s.
Since 1961, the Obama family has always maintained that Barack Obama Jr. was born in Hawaii. However, as WND has reported, the family has changed its story about his hospital of birth, first claiming it was Honolulu's Queens Medical Center then changing it to Kapi'olani Medical Center.
What has yet to be produced is a long-form certificate of birth that lists the hospital where Obama was born and the doctor that attended the birth.
In June, WND reported Tim Adams, a senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in 2008, made the claim that Barack Obama Jr. was definitely not born in Hawaii and that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama does not exist in the Aloha State.
WND has reported that the birth address reported in the Honolulu newspapers in 1961 announcing the birth of Barack Obama Jr. was the address where his grandparents lived, suggesting the grandparents may simply have applied at the Hawaii Department of Health for a short-form Certificate of Live Birth.
WND has also reported that newspaper birth announcements in Hawaiian newspapers in 1961 did not necessarily indicate a baby was born in the state. Hawaiian law in 1961 allowed "an adult or legal parent of a minor child" to apply to the health department and, upon unspecified proof, be given a birth document in the form that is known as a short-form Certification of Live Birth.
Under Hawaiian law at that time, a family wishing to register the birth of a baby outside Hawaii was permitted by the Hawaii Department of Health to list a family residence in Hawaii as the birth address, even if the mother was residing outside Hawaii at the time the baby was born.
Moreover, WND has reported that being a U.S. citizen does not by itself fulfill the requirement under Article 2, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution that the president be a "natural born citizen."

Obama Birth Certificate - again

between the lines Joseph Farah

Lies on top of lies on top of lies

Posted: August 09, 2010
1:00 am Eastern

© 2010 

I guess it's no wonder there's so much confusion about this issue of Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility for office.
There's been a series of lies told by public officials.
But they are more than lies. In many cases, they are lies on top of lies – lies that conflict with other lies.
Then my esteemed colleagues in the news media selectively cull from those lies as proof positive that anyone who questions where Obama was born, who his parents were and why we haven't seen his birth certificate or any evidence of his constitutional eligibility is stark raving bonkers.

Superficially, it is a story about a decorated Army colonel and physician who is facing a court martial for asserting his right to know whether the commander in chief is constitutionally eligible to order him deployed to Afghanistan.
It's the background of the story where the lies, half-truths, selective quotations and almost surreal distortions are specifically designed to portray Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin as some kind of flake.
Let's examine these argumentative assertions by CNN because they form the basis for most of the media's misrepresentation of this ongoing controversy.
CNN reports: "Two newspapers in Honolulu, Hawaii, published announcements of Obama's birth there in August, 1961."
I'm still shocked by the fact that so many press outlets, media pundits and otherwise certifiably skeptical news people accept newspaper birth announcements as the equivalent of a birth certificate. I would like any of them to try using newspaper birth announcements as a substitute for a birth certificate in any venue that requires the original document. I'll save you the trouble. It won't work. The newspaper birth announcements only provide some corroborating evidence that a certification of live birth was likely generated by the Hawaii health department. And even the certification of live birth is not a legitimate substitute for an original long-form birth certificate – nor should it be – to get a driver's license, a passport or to enroll in Little League sports. There are just too many ways to generate such a document without documented, eyewitness accounts of the actual birth.
CNN reports: "The Republican governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, has recently certified Obama's birth certificate as legitimate."
For CNN to accept this alleged certification, some off-the-cuff comments on a radio program reported by only one news organization at the time – WND – the network would have to know that Lingle's words conflict both with her own previous statements and with demonstrable facts.
CNN then selectively quotes from Lingle's radio appearance: "I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health. The president was in fact born at Kapi'olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that's just a fact. It's been established he was born here. I can understand why people want to make certain that the constitutional requirement of being a natural-born American citizen ... but the question has been asked and answered. And I think just we should all move on now."
I can certainly appreciate that Lingle wants to move on. If I were her and had handled this matter so unprofessionally and unskillfully, I would want to move on, too.
Did Lingle say she saw the birth certificate? No.
(Column continues below)

   
Did Lingle assert that the certification of live birth released by Barack Obama's campaign is authentic and a copy released by the state of Hawaii? No.
Did CNN note how Lingle's statement on the radio conflicted with the news release from the Hawaii Department of Health? No.
Did CNN wonder how Lingle could assert as fact the hospital in which Obama was born when no Hawaii official, not even her health director, has ever hinted at such a suggestion? No.
And why did CNN selectively edit Lingle's comments on that radio show?
Here's what she actually said, with the italics reflecting words strategically removed from the statement by CNN: "This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it's one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country. So I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi'olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that's just a fact and yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue and I think it's again a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this."
The demonstrable lie is that the state of Hawaii has never issued any news release stating that Obama was born in Kapi'olani Hospital. Even Kapi'olani refuses to confirm he was born there.
It seems to me the "horrible distraction for the country" is being caused by lying, deceiving public officials who trip themselves up with conflicting statements while actively concealing the very documents that should put this matter to rest – if they are not indeed misrepresenting them entirely. After all, if it's illegal for Lingle to release the birth certificate, is it not illegal for her to talk about it, excerpt what is supposedly on it while insisting it's none of our business? Has she seen it or hasn't she? How does she know he was born in Kapi'olani? Who told her?
I don't know about you, but I don't trust politicians and bureaucrats. Recent polls suggest I am not alone in this respect.
CNN even misrepresents those polls: "Despite the evidence, roughly a quarter of Americans remains skeptical, including Lakin and other so-called 'birthers.'"
A quarter?
Not even close to the truth.
Every public opinion survey taken recently on this subject shows significantly more than 50 percent of Americans are now skeptical of Obama's birth story. According to CNN's own poll released last week, only 42 percent believe Obama's story.
It's no wonder.
How could anyone with half a brain be expected to swallow the ever-changing lies of the public officials at the center of this controversy and their dutiful scribes in the media establishment?

Tuesday, June 22, 2010

FW: Elections official hits TV to affirm no Hawaii birth

 


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Elections official hits TV to affirm no Hawaii birth
In direct contradiction of the White House storyline, the former Honolulu elections official who caused a national stir this month when he told WND Barack Obama was "definitely" not born in Hawaii, and that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate even exists for the president in the Aloha State is now reaffirming those claims to a network television affiliate.
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Thursday, April 15, 2010

BO's Live Birth Certificate - PLS note Place of birth listed as Kenya, not HI

 

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Igor Produce Obama VAult Birth Certificate

Satires by Igor

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Difference between USSR Communist media and USA "mainstream media"

In Russia government make media say what they want - even if lie.

 In USA "mainstream media"  try make government what they want - even if lie..

.....eventually they become same thing?! 

To my new friends in America;

                                                           

My name Igor Marxomarxovich  I come from old country Russia one year ago.  I thank you for freedom has been given me in my new country.

I here only this time but have already vote.  I vote five times already in last election with the help of new friends at ACORN.   They tell me OK I become citizen later.  Never in my country can I do this.  They give me new name each time I vote.  Give me American cigarette to smoke in line.  Sometimes even find Igor place at front of line.

Such freedom.  My uncle die three year ago.  With help of ACORN he still able to vote (but not get American cigarette)

My sister not speak English.  They even go vote for her.  Generous American taxpayers pay ACORN help make this possible!  Thank you very much!

This beautiful land of opportunity.  Even stupid person like Comrade Biden can become president.  In my country we call such people rocket scientist.  That is person who say he smart, but too stupid to fly rocket straight up into air then down into ground to crash.

I would like to show my gratitude to Comrade Obama.  He not have time to find birth certificate to be president.  He go back to Hawaii for 5 day but only have time to visit sick grandmother for hour and still find no paper.  Media too busy to help.  They have important things to do like find out if Joe Plumber in union or where Ms Palin get dress.

I help them easy.  In Russia all plumbers in union.  Then, union become part of government.  Dues become taxes.  Even rocket scientist know that.  It not matter where Ms. Palin get dress.  Maybe  she give dress to Mr Biden,  He wear on TV interview and answer mean question easy like she do.  Then maybe he not get so angry and look so stupid..

To help Obama campaign, I, Igor, make him birth certificate.  Better than one DNC goons make for website!  I take DNC like my KGB back home! 

**I Igor make certificate only from gratitude.  But if Comrade Obama need Cabinet member, I Igor have many good credential:

 

**Former community organizer for KGB

**Much smarter than Comrade Biden

**Graduate Moscow Elementary School in only 10 year! Not even have to copy other student like Comrade Biden!(Even though he say not know any better)

**Former treasurer for Moscow Plumber Union - raise dues 40% only keep ½ for myself – buy big house with big backyard in Moscow(buy cheap from good friend,  Moscow slum lord before he go jail)

**Graduate top of class from Moscow Elementary, therefore know 50 states in US, 15 states of USSR and 57 states of Islam Was on teleprompter! (my school records sealed – I not want you see them)

**Not as good looking as Ms Palin, but a lot better looking than Comrade Hiliary and Hawaii Governor – looks important to media …That why good friend Senator Barney get me loan from ACORN and Freddie Mac before I declare bankruptcy.

**Have birth certificate(or at least certificate of live birth).  Eligible be of President United States!

All facts can be check on independent nonpartisan nonprofit internet site. www.FactCheckIgor.kgb.org  Media has inspect all document and see raised seal.  All donations to Igor accepted.

Remember,  I Igor say vote early and vote often.  Then you get more American cigarette.

 

Gratefully yours,

 

Igor Marxomarxovich

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 This my great uncle Karl Marx.  He shorten family name.  This make him major league Wussy in old country.   But maybe ACORN still help him vote too!  (He still not get American cigarette either)

 


     

I Igor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Any complaint or comment please send to www.fightigorsmears.kgb.org and they be handled in appropriate manner.

 

Please tell President Baracky to redistribute wealth.  Give all money to Igor!!!!!!!!!

 

Financial Disclosure (In compliance with Igor Honesty and Transparency Act):  I Igor try bribe Washington Post, NYT, AJC,  LA Times, Huffington Post, CNN, ABC, CBS,  MSNBC, BBC and other mainstream media but they all tell Igor they already bought out or sold out.  Something very wrong with this picture.  I Igor think any bribe a good bribe. Even if DNC get there first.

 

Please remember all this country problem cause by George Bush.  He cause hurricanes, force ACORN and Freddie Mack give bad loans.  He cause Bill Ayers blow up buildings(and other things  Barney?).  Cause Satan possess good man Obama to make him tell lies.  He even cause I, Igor get hemorrhoids.  Good friend Senator Barney try help, but only make hemorrhoids worse.  We need change!    Maybe Comrade Baracky and Biden help Igor hemorrhoids get better!

 

 

 

I Igor raising taxes dues at Moscow Plumber Union meeting (2005)!!!!!!!!!!

What good Baracky Cabinet member Igor make !!!!!!!!!

 

 

Famous political strategist Igor always willing to help those not smart enough to help themselves!!!!!!!

Now maybe Comrade Biden go back to TV reporter Barbara wearing dress and maybe he understand question!!!!!  Maybe able to handle more like Ms. Palin!  Like man!!!!!(not wussy)

 

 

 

This Comrade Pelosi.  She give more tax money to ACORN. She say Mr. Bush fault for bad loans like Comrade Barney give me!!!!!  She call it bailout.  Not make sense to Igor.  I Igor much better looking than her too!!!!!  My friend Senator Barney call her  "B word" but I Igor not know what mean ? Place she get hemmorhoids? BoTox?

 

 

Opinion Poll   Who Make best President

 

                           
Smug Face Baracky   I Igor!!!!!!!!!!!!   Senator Barney Fallen Comrade Second choice to Igor

 

____ Igor

 

****  Only Vote for Igor count.  This poll like Chicago and Moscow election.  Learn from Mayor/Comrade Daley and Baracky

 

Results  100%    Igor!!!!!!!!!!!

                  0%    Not Igor

 

Please make all illegal campaign contribution to Igor for President!  All foreign donation accepted!!!

 

 

I Igor volunteer to make phony IQ certificate for Comrade(Dumb Donkey) Biden  Will give IQ 85 but will take very big bribe.  Even I Igor have some morale!

 

 

  

 

 

Comments:

ALincoln

 

Is this supposed to be a satire or an accurate description of the American
Communist Party. Not the party of Lincoln

Abe

 

 

Common Cents

This is obviously a website for right wingnuts! Whoever this Igor clown is, he
can barely speak English. Just in case anyone was wondering Abe Lincoln has
been dead for 150 years!

Common Cents

 

 

ALincoln 

Dear Mr. Common Cents

Yes. I have been dead for 150 years.

Yes. I am rolling over in my grave.

No. You do not spell common sense correctly nor
does it appear that you have any.

Yes. Honesty is still the best policy. You have to live with it when you die.

You may want to pass that along to your colleagues

Abe

 

 

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This was sent as a comment to another post alleging BO's actual live birth certificate but has no serial no so more likely fabrication but still exactly what the birthers all across this nation and in Kenya claim to be the truth. Who knows the truth? BO isn't telling anyone and this does look just almost exactly the same as his original (no longer avbl) posted birth certificate that was once upon a time on his web site when running for office. The blogger has an amusing site, none-the-less.